Ella Mae Loafman Roberts

Ella Mae Loughman Roberts was my great grandmother. She was born Dec 17, 1865 in Greene Co. Pennsylvania. Her mother was Mary Johns Bowen and her father Elijah Loafman/ Loughman. Her siblings were Hannah Elizabeth 1855-1862, Samuel Mason 1856-1862, Mary Jane 1858-1886, Dillie Melete 1860-1862, Sarah Julia 1862-1922, Arla Dell 1868-1954, Margaret Ellen 1870-1939.

Couple years after her father death about 1874 Ella and her mother and siblings moved to Missouri to live with her uncle Mason Bowen ( her mother brother). In 1879 they moved to Larned, Pawnee Co. Kansas. Her sister Julia stayed behind and married Albert Selway. in 1883 Ella and her mother and siblings moved to Hodgeman Kansas on the Northwest Quarter Section 36, Township 22 South, Range 23 West. They lived in a sod house. They use to have to have rope with rocks tied to the ends of them to have the roof held down with.

Here is some letters that was transcribed, that Ella, and her siblings and mother wrote to Julia.

Letters transcribed from Ella, her sister Della and mother Mary to their sister Julia. 

Letters from Maggie, Della, and Ella

Mazeffa Roberts & Ella Mae Loughman Marriage Photo

6 Mar 1884 Ella married Mazeffa Roberts. 

There children were:

Myrtle Dell 1884-1971

Alta Ellen 1887-1962

Ethel Pearl 1890-1971

Earl LeRoy 1894-1976

Clyde Wilbur 1897-1941

Hazel Juanita Ruth 1910-1979

Back Row: Ethel, Alta, Myrtle
Front Row: Clyde, Mazeffa, Ella, Earl

Roberts Home 

Mazeffa, Margaret, Lola Sanders, Arla, George Sanders, Earl, Ethel, Clyde, Marjorie Sanders, Hazel, Ella, Opal

Roberts House

Ella, Margaret and Hazel

Ella remarried after Mazeffa died. Not sure when they married.

William Archer, Wanda Barron, Ella Roberts

Ella 

 Ella died 2 Sep 1945 in Larned Kansas. She was buried next to Mazeffa Roberts.

Am I Related to Hannah Seeley Morris 1773 - 1821? Using DNA To Find Out

Update: 1/29/2017
I broke down and took the MtDNA test. I took the fullsequence test, which includes, HVR1, HVR2 and Coding Region. The results are in. I can say I am related through
 Haplogroup H
HVR1: 16362C, 16519C
HVR2: 263G, 309.1C, 315.1C

I have no real idea what these numbers mean yet. FamilyTreeDNA site wasn't able to tell me much. Their webpages seem to be crashing  a lot lately.

This is what I have figured out so far. The Haplogroup H for MtDNA started a gillon years ago, before Adam and Eve time. Me, my mom, my moms mom and her mom, and every female along this line goes back to where there researchers and people who digging in the dirt around the world were able to find a common ancestors with using DNA. This can be very confusing to try to understand. My female line of the H haplogroup started way back when in the Mediterranean Sea ( according to FamilytreeDNA map) near Italy and Greece. This group migrated 3 different directions, one way is to east towards Asia, and to the west to Portugal and to the north towards Finland.  They say about 40% European MtDNA comes from this group.

With my test result there is a list of matches. Here comes the real fun, the hunt. I always love the hunt. I took a quick look at the list to see if I see anything familiar, Looking for the Morris, Conrow, Bowen lines. Nada. I did not see any matches stating they are descendants of these family line. Now it is the time for the hunt. As my cousin puts it " You gotta hack through the jungle with this one". I was hoping it would be so simple, nope, it isn't. Looks like I am going to have to contact people on my list to compare trees, to see if we can find a common matches, common surnames, common locations within a time period. The good thing is we just have to look at one family female line. That makes it a tad easier. I am hoping to find others who is related closer to me that has taken this test and we can compare notes.

Over and out, until next time...

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All my life I grew up hearing from my mother. We are related to Robert Morris the man who sign the Declaration of Independence. Then again she told we were related to William Randolph Hearst. You know the man who had that big castle home in California who had a daughter name Patti Hearst who was kidnapped. She told some tall tales. Of course I didn't believe her. But when I heard other family members telling me of this Robert Morris. It stirred my curiosity up. In 2011 I decided to do my family tree. I joined up on Ancestry and started my search. I started questioning relatives about this Robert Morris to see how we are related to him. One cousin said they found the proof, but their computer crash and the proof crashed with it. Others say they just know it.

 A relative sent me copies of a letter that was typed written that gave the family tree and talked about we are related through the daughter of Robert Morris named Hannah Seeley Morris and that she was accepted by affiliate by DAR. I decided to pursue this. I went on Ancestry and found no records of her at all. I went on DAR website and nada. I even called DAR and there is nothing of this so called record. I even looked at many trees that was online who claimed they are a descendant of Hannah, but no record of her existed nor her so call husband. I became discouraged. This has became a brick wall for me.

I don't know about anyone else but in the past 5 years I have learned a few things when it comes to researching your family members. I don't always go by what others tell me unless they can back it up with documentation. Give me a birth date,  a death date, a tombstone, Quaker record,  a will, census record, etc. to let me know that person existed.   Usually a brick wall means something isn't right. I need to go back over what I have and make sure it is correct. Keep at it, don't quit. Something is bound to pop up somewhere.

The story goes like this. Hannah married Aaron Henry Conarroe and he was a Quaker and her daddy doesn't like Quakers and he took it upon himself to remove any documentation of her being his daughter. Another version to the tale is that when he got put in jail, he forgave her and they were reunited again.

If Aaron was a Quaker there would be a record of him being born. I have yet to find him in the Quaker records of his birth. If he would have gotten married, there be a Quaker record of it. Quaker are great for keep records. I have yet to find a Quaker record of them being married or death or them moving from one Quaker meeting house to another, or them being kicked out. Also there should be a record of Deliverance and other children being born in the Quaker records, which I have yet to find.

 Many books have been written about Robert Morris. There were letters and journals written by him and his wife. I am surprised that there doesn't seem to anything that written by the wife to any family members stating she had a daughter name Hannah that was removed from the family. I would think there be a letter of her sharing her feelings about the whole ordeal. Or an another family member sharing it. I do find this odd.

So my question is this, was there really a Hannah Seeley Morris? who married a Arron Henry Conarroe? If so, what happen to them?  Where did they died at? Did they have more children? Did they continue to be Quakers or did they step out of the church?

This what we have found:
After Robert Morris died there were newspaper articles of a case where the descendants were  trying to sue the government for the monies that Robert gave to the government to help fund the war. This went on for years. According to a newspaper article from the The Evening Herald (Ottawa Kansas) dated 12 May 1914, It stated that Ella May Loafman Roberts is a great granddaughter of Robert Morris, and English Capitalist who lent a million and a half dollars to the government to finance the war. According to the paper it stated that the claims is now settled. I would like to be able to see this settlement results, and who was awarded. I have not found any newspapers articles that has this information yet.

                                        

Deliverance Conarroe last name is Conrow. That was on the record for Mason Bowen death widows pension.




So we know that we are related to the Conrow family line. Supposedly Aaron Conrow father was Joseph Conrow who married Valerie Moore. Quaker records does show Joseph and Valerie were married.

Mason mother is name Hannah Seeley born abt 1783, about the same time has Hannah Seeley Conarroe. I was wondering if someone who did the family tree research in that past may have mixed up the names?

I took test a DNA with Ancestry, Couple leaf hint matches indicates that I have DNA matches for Conrow family line, Bowen and Seeley family lines. Also I have one DNA match with one of the descendants of Robert Morris and one from his sister family line. But no Mary White ( Roberts Wife)

Ancestry DNA leaf hint match. Through Robert Morris son Robert White Morris. 

 I am planning on doing a mtDNA test which only works along the female side of the tree it might reveal if we are related to Robert Morris wife Mary White and her mother and her mother. It is pretty expensive test. I am saving my money for it. It should be interesting to see the results. It may show or it may not show or it may confuse the heck out of me or be more frustration. I think this might be the only way to know for sure a 100%.