Sunday, December 18, 2016

Ella Mae Loafman Roberts

Ella Mae Loughman Roberts was my great grandmother. She was born Dec 17, 1865 in Greene Co. Pennsylvania. Her mother was Mary Johns Bowen and her father Elijah Loafman/ Loughman. Her siblings were Hannah Elizabeth 1855-1862, Samuel Mason 1856-1862, Mary Jane 1858-1886, Dillie Melete 1860-1862, Sarah Julia 1862-1922, Arla Dell 1868-1954, Margaret Ellen 1870-1939.

Couple years after her father death about 1874 Ella and her mother and siblings moved to Missouri to live with her uncle Mason Bowen ( her mother brother). In 1879 they moved to Larned, Pawnee Co. Kansas. Her sister Julia stayed behind and married Albert Selway. in 1883 Ella and her mother and siblings moved to Hodgeman Kansas on the Northwest Quarter Section 36, Township 22 South, Range 23 West. They lived in a sod house. They use to have to have rope with rocks tied to the ends of them to have the roof held down with.

Here is some letters that was transcribed, that Ella, and her siblings and mother wrote to Julia.

Letters transcribed from Ella, her sister Della and mother Mary to their sister Julia. 

Letters from Maggie, Della, and Ella

















Mazeffa Roberts & Ella Mae Loughman Marriage Photo

6 Mar 1884 Ella married Mazeffa Roberts. 
There children were:
Myrtle Dell 1884-1971
Alta Ellen 1887-1962
Ethel Pearl 1890-1971
Earl LeRoy 1894-1976
Clyde Wilbur 1897-1941
Hazel Juanita Ruth 1910-1979




Back Row: Ethel, Alta, Myrtle
Front Row: Clyde, Mazeffa, Ella, Earl
Roberts Home 


Mazeffa, Margaret, Lola Sanders, Arla, George Sanders, Earl, Ethel, Clyde, Marjorie Sanders, Hazel, Ella, Opal
Roberts House
Ella, Margaret and Hazel
Ella remarried after Mazeffa died. Not sure when they married.

William Archer, Wanda Barron, Ella Roberts

Ella 
 Ella died 2 Sep 1945 in Larned Kansas. She was buried next to Mazeffa Roberts.





Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Am I Related to Hannah Seeley Morris 1773 - 1821? Using DNA To Find Out


Update: 1/29/2017
I broke down and took the MtDNA test. I took the fullsequence test, which includes, HVR1, HVR2 and Coding Region. The results are in. I can say I am related through
 Haplogroup H
HVR1: 16362C, 16519C
HVR2: 263G, 309.1C, 315.1C

I have no real idea what these numbers mean yet. FamilyTreeDNA site wasn't able to tell me much. Their webpages seem to be crashing  a lot lately.

This is what I have figured out so far. The Haplogroup H for MtDNA started a gillon years ago, before Adam and Eve time. Me, my mom, my moms mom and her mom, and every female along this line goes back to where there researchers and people who digging in the dirt around the world were able to find a common ancestors with using DNA. This can be very confusing to try to understand. My female line of the H haplogroup started way back when in the Mediterranean Sea ( according to FamilytreeDNA map) near Italy and Greece. This group migrated 3 different directions, one way is to east towards Asia, and to the west to Portugal and to the north towards Finland.  They say about 40% European MtDNA comes from this group.

With my test result there is a list of matches. Here comes the real fun, the hunt. I always love the hunt. I took a quick look at the list to see if I see anything familiar, Looking for the Morris, Conrow, Bowen lines. Nada. I did not see any matches stating they are descendants of these family line. Now it is the time for the hunt. As my cousin puts it " You gotta hack through the jungle with this one". I was hoping it would be so simple, nope, it isn't. Looks like I am going to have to contact people on my list to compare trees, to see if we can find a common matches, common surnames, common locations within a time period. The good thing is we just have to look at one family female line. That makes it a tad easier. I am hoping to find others who is related closer to me that has taken this test and we can compare notes.

Over and out, until next time...

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All my life I grew up hearing from my mother. We are related to Robert Morris the man who sign the Declaration of Independence. Then again she told we were related to William Randolph Hearst. You know the man who had that big castle home in California who had a daughter name Patti Hearst who was kidnapped. She told some tall tales. Of course I didn't believe her. But when I heard other family members telling me of this Robert Morris. It stirred my curiosity up. In 2011 I decided to do my family tree. I joined up on Ancestry and started my search. I started questioning relatives about this Robert Morris to see how we are related to him. One cousin said they found the proof, but their computer crash and the proof crashed with it. Others say they just know it.

 A relative sent me copies of a letter that was typed written that gave the family tree and talked about we are related through the daughter of Robert Morris named Hannah Seeley Morris and that she was accepted by affiliate by DAR. I decided to pursue this. I went on Ancestry and found no records of her at all. I went on DAR website and nada. I even called DAR and there is nothing of this so called record. I even looked at many trees that was online who claimed they are a descendant of Hannah, but no record of her existed nor her so call husband. I became discouraged. This has became a brick wall for me.

I don't know about anyone else but in the past 5 years I have learned a few things when it comes to researching your family members. I don't always go by what others tell me unless they can back it up with documentation. Give me a birth date,  a death date, a tombstone, Quaker record,  a will, census record, etc. to let me know that person existed.   Usually a brick wall means something isn't right. I need to go back over what I have and make sure it is correct. Keep at it, don't quit. Something is bound to pop up somewhere.

The story goes like this. Hannah married Aaron Henry Conarroe and he was a Quaker and her daddy doesn't like Quakers and he took it upon himself to remove any documentation of her being his daughter. Another version to the tale is that when he got put in jail, he forgave her and they were reunited again.

If Aaron was a Quaker there would be a record of him being born. I have yet to find him in the Quaker records of his birth. If he would have gotten married, there be a Quaker record of it. Quaker are great for keep records. I have yet to find a Quaker record of them being married or death or them moving from one Quaker meeting house to another, or them being kicked out. Also there should be a record of Deliverance and other children being born in the Quaker records, which I have yet to find.

 Many books have been written about Robert Morris. There were letters and journals written by him and his wife. I am surprised that there doesn't seem to anything that written by the wife to any family members stating she had a daughter name Hannah that was removed from the family. I would think there be a letter of her sharing her feelings about the whole ordeal. Or an another family member sharing it. I do find this odd.

So my question is this, was there really a Hannah Seeley Morris? who married a Arron Henry Conarroe? If so, what happen to them?  Where did they died at? Did they have more children? Did they continue to be Quakers or did they step out of the church?

This what we have found:
After Robert Morris died there were newspaper articles of a case where the descendants were  trying to sue the government for the monies that Robert gave to the government to help fund the war. This went on for years. According to a newspaper article from the The Evening Herald (Ottawa Kansas) dated 12 May 1914, It stated that Ella May Loafman Roberts is a great granddaughter of Robert Morris, and English Capitalist who lent a million and a half dollars to the government to finance the war. According to the paper it stated that the claims is now settled. I would like to be able to see this settlement results, and who was awarded. I have not found any newspapers articles that has this information yet.

                                        

Deliverance Conarroe last name is Conrow. That was on the record for Mason Bowen death widows pension.




So we know that we are related to the Conrow family line. Supposedly Aaron Conrow father was Joseph Conrow who married Valerie Moore. Quaker records does show Joseph and Valerie were married.

Mason mother is name Hannah Seeley born abt 1783, about the same time has Hannah Seeley Conarroe. I was wondering if someone who did the family tree research in that past may have mixed up the names?

I took test a DNA with Ancestry, Couple leaf hint matches indicates that I have DNA matches for Conrow family line, Bowen and Seeley family lines. Also I have one DNA match with one of the descendants of Robert Morris and one from his sister family line. But no Mary White ( Roberts Wife)

Ancestry DNA leaf hint match. Through Robert Morris son Robert White Morris. 



 I am planning on doing a mtDNA test which only works along the female side of the tree it might reveal if we are related to Robert Morris wife Mary White and her mother and her mother. It is pretty expensive test. I am saving my money for it. It should be interesting to see the results. It may show or it may not show or it may confuse the heck out of me or be more frustration. I think this might be the only way to know for sure a 100%.

Wednesday, June 3, 2015

Chasing After DNA Leads Benjamin Roberts Parents

I have been putting a lot of time in researching my and my uncles DNA matches through Ancestry. com, Gedmatch and FamilytreeDNA. I have been trying to figure out who is Benjamin Roberts 1775-1871 parents. It has been a major brickwall for a very long time. I have been following another's research that was done back in the late 1930s. Everywhere I seem to try to find any records or get close there always seems to be wall, like the court house burned down with the records. Even there was some confusion on where he was born at. Was it is in West Virginia or Maryland ( Tombstone states WV and census states Maryland.)

I decided to try DNA with this brickwall. I had many DNA matches to go by. When I used the search in Ancestry.com. I had many pages to go through. I many hits for Virginia, CT, PA, NC, KY, Maryland, Mass. etc. I started with VA since there was more DNA matches. I built the tree with the hits and I just couldn't see anything that could lead me to Benjamin parents. I even sent out messages to the matches to see if they have matches with a couple confirmed relatives that are descendants of Benjamin. Nada. I did the same for PA, CT and nothing. I decided to take another look at the Maryland ones. The first time there wasn't much there and it didn't lead to anything. This time I saw a new hit and I went with it. It lead me to a group Roberts on the Eastern side of Maryland, Kent, Cecil and Queen Annes. The other surnames of the group is Scott and Raven, Ricketts. I have DNA matches with these family groups and is connected to the Roberts.I have been working hard in putting these family groups up in my tree with the DNA connections. I am feeling very confidant in this. you cant go too wrong with DNA.

I am still not able to figure who is Benjamin mother is and not a 100% sure if Benjamin Robert born in 1750 is his father. His father was Benjamin Roberts born in 1731 and had sons name, Hugh, Benjamin, Conor/ Conrod, John 1748-1823. All boys where names in Benjamin Roberts 1731 will except for John. ( this is the one that lead me on the DNA chase to this family line) I don't know why John wasn't on the will. Apparently John traveled to Frederick Co. Maryland and his family moved on to Illinois, there was a daughter name Alice that was born in Frederick Co. Maryland and moved to Coshoston Ohio which is a couple counties over from Jefferson Co Ohio where my Benjamin Roberts moved to in abt 1800. The test states that Alice is a cousin.

As time permits I will be adding the whole tree on here including the Scott, Ricketts and Raven's including all the sources that I was able to find. 

Friday, August 31, 2012

Margaret Amanda Welday Roberts ( 1822-1902)

Margaret Amanda Welday Roberts was born 30 Jan 1822 Cross Creek, Jefferson Co. Ohio. Died 21 Jan 1902 Radium Stafford Co Kansas. She was Married to Robert Rutter Roberts in 7 Feb 1839 Jefferson Co. Ohio at the age of 17 yrs old. She was buried at Pioneer Cemetery Pleasant Ridge.

Margaret mother was born in Ireland according to the 1880 Federal Census records, She lived with her daughter Clarinda Ann Fowler and her husband John, son Fred Hodge 13 yrs old and was born in 1867 in Indiana (Clarinda was married 3 times Benjamin Hodges 1866-1932, John Fowler 1843-1898 Charles L. Wells 1872-?) As of the Kansas Census record for 1895 Fred wasn't living with them anymore.

According to 1900 Federal census records Margaret father was born in Pennsylvania. 
Margaret Amanda Welday Roberts ( I believe this picture was taken before she died around 1890s)

Jacob Welday Roberts (1839-1864)

Jacob Welday Roberts was the son of Robert Rutter Roberts. Jacob was born Dec 1839 in Ohio died 1864 in Tennessee. He lived in Wells Jefferson Co. Ohio at the age of 11 according to census records. At 21 yrs old he lived in Cross Creek Jefferson Co. Ohio. In 1863 he lived Lick Jackson Co Ohio. He served in the Civil War he was a Union solider. He was a private with the US Army. He died at the age of 25 on 22 Dec 1864. He is buried at Nashville National Cemetery at 1420 Gallatin Road, South Madison TN 37115 Buried at Section K Site 13094. Not too sure if he died from wounds or from a disease which was very common during the Civil War. Many men in the war did not make it. The battle last for 4 yrs, it killed more men than during the World Wars of I and II.
Jacob Welday Roberts Civil War Draft Record

Jacob Welday Roberts Pension File
Update 3/5/17


Letters that was written by Jacob Welday Roberts, to his sister Eliza Jane Dawson. The son of Robert Rutter Robert and Margaret Amanda Welday. These letters were in written in 1863 during the Civil War. The letter was transcribed by Vernie Dawson Lee, in which she contrubite to the book called: Families of Ruebsamen, Spear, Dawson and Burley by Neil Ruebsamen. The letters are on pages 268-273. These letters gave us a look what Jacob had experience during these difficult times during the Civil War. It shows us what he had to endure, what were his daily activities. The towns and states he walks or rode by horseback through.

Old Letters and “Alminac” Written Home
By
Jacob Welday Roberts, During the Civil War, In 1863

                                                                                                                                                May the 5th 1863

Mrs. Eliza Jane Dawson
I take up my pen to write you a few lines to let you know that I am well. I will send you my almanac. You can give it to Clarinda to take care of for me as she has got the others when you read it. My almanac of February got lost so Clarinda stated in her letter it told of our expedition on the yahoo pass; well lida I got safely though the fight and did not get hurt. I don’t know whether I killed any of the rebels or not but they kept falling when we fired. Our wounded men were taken into the hospittle for Fort Gibson; Also the rebels wounded were taken to the same palce and our doctors and the rebel doctors are working all together takeing care of the rebels were brought in from Grand Gulf to Port Gibson. They got hurt the time of the gun boat fight at Grand Gulf; The rebels have aracuated and blown up their magazines at Grand Gulf. We have a large force here, we are about 3 miles from Grand Gilf and 12 miles from Port Ginson and 28 miles from Victsburgh. We are marching towards the Rail Road Back of Vickburgh. I expect we will be in a big fight before long.  From your, J.W Roberts

Alminac for April 1836
1 We. On Battalion Drill.
2 Th. Washing clothes, on Battalion Drill.
3 Fri. Gerneral Inspection, Bregade Drill
4 Sa. Fixing bunk, Company marches to town.
5 Su. Arrive at Friars Point, return to Helena.
6 Mo. Speaking at the fort by L. Thomas, A.J
7 Tu. On Picket Guard, got letter from home.
8 We. Relived from picket by Co. F. Bregade Drill.
9 Th. Washing Clothes, we get 4 months pay.
10 Fri. March to town and get on boat.
11 Sa. Start for Vicksburgh.
12 Su. Pass Napoleon, Arkansas.
13 Mo. Arrive at Milligan’s bend.
14 Tu. In camp at Milligan’s bend.
15 We. March to Holmes Plantation.
16 Th. In camp at Holmes Plantation.
17 Fri. In camp at Holmes Plantation, Washing clothes.
18 Sa. Camp Morton Rifles. Holmes Plantation.
19 Su. Inspection of guns Holmes Plantation.
20 Mo. Fixing up quarters at Holmes.
21 Tu. Marched to Pontoon Bridge.
22 We. In camp near bridge.
23 Th. Still in camp near Pontoon, LA.
24 Fri. Camp at bridge near Carthage, LA.
25 Sa. Still in camp at the bridge.
26 Su. Inspection of guns.
27 Mo. March through the river below Carthage. Detailed to get wagons over.
28 Tu. Still in camp near river.
29 We. March to river and get on boats. Boats run down the river. Battle at Grand Gulf our loss 6 killed and 13 wounded one gunboat. Disabled Battle Commences at 7pm and the boats draw off at 4am all the rebel guns silenced but five; the boats run the blockade.
30 Th. Got off the boats and ran 15 miles down the river landed on Mississippi side drawed 5 days rations marched all night.
May the 1st fought all day and slept on the battle field at night.

Camp of the Morton Rifles on the battlefield at Vicksburgh, Friday June the 5th, 1863

Dear Friends,
This morning finds me still on the land amongst the living and enjoying good health. We have not got Vicksburg taken yet but we have them surrounded so that they can’t get out. Our line of battle around Vicksburg is 13 miles long; the left line lays on the Mississippi River below Vicksburg and the right line lays at the mouth of the Yazoo River above Vicksburg. We have them completely surrounded and have got about as strong fortifications all around our lines as what the rebels have and intend to keep them in here till they starve out. Our men keeps shelling them in their forts from our batteries which are set on every hill, the rebels cant get to shoot a cannon at us because our sharp shooters in the rifle pits shoot them when they go to load it and then a ball or two from our big siege guns is enough to break their cannon and knock it clear off of their forts, so they can’t use their cannon on us and our sharp shooters are close enough to fetch one every time he put his head up above the fort, but the rebels have the same chance and shoot at us in the rifle pits, some get killed nearly every day.
Our men have got a telegraph put up clear around Vicksburg outside of the line of battle and can send dispatches all along the line. We lost one of our sergeants by the bursting of a shell from one of our cannon it bursted too soon and the pieces flew thick among us at the rifle pits a piece about the size of my fist struck him in the forehead and tore the whole side of head off; it was a horrible sight.
Yours, J.W Roberts

Alminac For May 1863
1 Fri. Battle of Magnolia on Rodney Hills. The lost in killed & wounded in 34 Reg: 51.
2 Sa. Marched into Fort Gibson, Mississippi
3 Su. Marched to Willow Springs.
4 Mo. Camped at Willow Springs.
5 Tu. Still in camp at Willow Springs.
6 We. Marched to Rocky Springs.
7 Th. Marched 2 miles beyond Rocky Springs.
8 Fri. On Picket beyond Rocky Springs.
9 Sa. Relieved from Picket by Co. F
10 Su. Marched all day pass through Intica.
11 Mo. In camp between Vicksburg, and Jackson.
12 Tu. Marched to Little Black river; Skirmishing.
13 We. Marched within 7 miles of Raymond.
14 Th. Marched through Raymond, after the battle.
15 Fri. Marched on to Clinton where we heard that Jackson taken and marched back in the direction of Edward Depot on the railroad.
16 Sa. Fought at Champion Hills& Bakers Creek the loss in out Division is 1,360; loss in 34 Reg. 76.
17 Su. On Picket, burying the dead.
18 Mo. In camp on the battle field.
19 Tu. Marched to Black River Bridge.
20 We. In camp at Black River; March all night.
21 Th. Marched at Vicksburg.
22 Fri. Fighting at Vicksburg.
23 Sa. Fighting all day; Rolling in cotton bales.
24 Su. Fighting at Vicksburg; On Picket. Boon Killed.
25 Mo. Fighting; the 2nd brigade of Horey’s Division comes up.
26 Tu. Fighting at Vicksburg; Building forts.
27 We. Fighting; On Picket at the fort.
28 Th. Fighting general shelling and sharp shooters
29 Fri. Fighting at Vicksburg, sharp shooting.
30 Sa. Fighting; Line of battle 13 miles long.
31 Su. Fighting; I am detailed to go with teams to Haines Bluff on the Yazoo River and return on Monday.
(P.S) I shall omit sending the statement of the Magnolia fight for want of space.


Morton Rifles
At New Orleans
September the 3rd 1863

Mr. Robert R. Roberts,
Dear father in accordance with your order I take up my pen to write you a few lines in reply to your ever welcome letter which I had the honor of receiving today; I am glad to hear that you are all enjoying good health and doing well. I was surprised to hear of that little friend of mine at home and hope it is doing well; and also I was much surprised to hear that Clarinda was going to get married. I hope I will get a good looking man for a brother in law. I suppose the reason you did not tell me who it was is because you want to keep it a secret until they get married. I suppose the grand affair and the fun will all be over long before this letter gets home and the secret will be made manifest that the twain are one flesh; I suppose old John Dawson was pretty badly scared when the rebels took him prisoner bully for Old Alexandria; Buckingham’s galls will have to walk to meeting since the rebels took all of the old Bucks horses. Tell Samantha that I sent her a present by Morris Connett who is going home on a sick furlough.
From Yours Truly
Jacob W. Roberts
To Robert R. Roberts; Special.

Alminac for September 1863
1 Tu. In camp at New Orleans
2 We. In camp near New Orleans; went to Carrollton.
3 Th. Still in camp near New Orleans & Carrollton.
4 Fri General review by general Banks & Grant.
5 Sa. Went to Carrollton.
6 Su. Went to Carrollton to church.
7 Mo. Still in camp near New Orleans.
8 Tu. Wrote a letter home.
9 We. Detailed on guard at the brass foundry.
10 Th. Still on guard at the brass foundry, guarding rations.
11 Fri. Relived from guard at the brass foundry.
12 Sa. Got aboard the boats for Algiers.
13 Su. Took the cars at Algiers for Brashear City.
14 Mo. Went into camp at Brashear City.
15 Tu. Still in camp at Brashear City.
16 We. Still at Brashear City; wrote a letter home.
17 Th. The 18th army corpse crosses the bay; general inspection.
18 Fri. Still in camp at Brashear City.
19 Sa. Troops are still crossing the bay.
20 Su. Still in camp at Brashear City.
21 Mo. Removing camp at Brashear City.
22 Tu. On company drill at Brashear City.
23 We. On provost guard at Brashear City.
24 Th. Relieved from guard; A man in the first misouria battery drummed out of service with the hair shaved off of one half of his head; for stealing money from his bunkmate; preaching in the saw mill tonight.
25 Fri. Still at Brashear City; Preaching in the 11th Indiana.
26 Sa. Detailed on camp guard; Clint Clark of company A of the 34th Indiana Regiment court marshaled for staying back in the times of the battles at Port Gibson and Champion Hills and for forging a pass to stay back at the battle of Vicksburg, and is sentence to hard labor at Ship Island the remainder of his term of enlistment with all the pay stopped that is due to him and all that might be due him the remainder of his time together with his bounty money and at the end of the times be dishonorably discharged from the service of the United States, by order of Grig Gen McGinniss Com Bregad.
27 Su. Relived from camp guard; general review by general Ord commanding 13th army corpse.
28 Mo. Marching orders; crossed the bay; rained.
29 Tu. Still raining; Very disagreeable in camp.
30 We. Still raining; Very disagreeable without any tents today; Talk of marching into Texas soon; Very wet weather.


Letter written by Jacob Welday Roberts to his brother in law, Joseph S. Dawson, husband of his sister Eliza Jane Roberts Dawson, only a few weeks before he died of small pox in Civil War.

Camp of the Morton Rifles
At Algiers, Louisiana
Christmas Day, 1863

Dear friend:
I seat myself to write you a few lines to let you know how I am getting along; Well Joe I have been nearly all over New Orleans this morning, I got a pass from Capt. Deam and went across the river and had a big time in general in the city of New Orleans; I went to the express office and expressed 40 dollars for you; I paid the express and insurance and for a receipt, and all you will have to do will be to take care of the money when it comes through; I will send you the receipt in case there might be some difficulty in the way to prevent you from getting the money.
Well Joe they think we will take a ship from here to Brownsville in Texas in a few days, I think the Old Continental is the ship that will take us around there; she is a good ship and can take on 1500 soldiers besides their freight and wagon trains;
We are present at Algiers just on the opposite side of the river from New Orleans; We can get everything we want to eat here just as cheap as would buy it at home; bread, apples, oranges, jams, potatoes and in fact everything; and Irish woman peddling there is no end to it in the camps; fath; and wadent ye buy a loaf of bread for a pickeune;
Oh: Joe you ought to be here to see the big fleet that stands here; the masts look like some old deadening just to look at them there is so many ships here; there is some British schooners here with the old British flas floating on them; I counted twenty six large guns on one of them; I think they could do pretty good fighting. Well you can tell the folks that I am well and hearty at present and would be glad to see them all once more if providence permits me to get home again. I hope the folks like their new situation out at Murry; I would be glad to spend a few more days in old Indiana and see some if the young folks and have a good time; I hope all them gall around there are flourishing; I would like to be there to help them flourish this winter; I have nine months more to serve and them “Home again” I think will be my name; I believe I have nothing much to write at present; please write soon and let me know whether you get the money and how you are getting along and give me all the good news from old Bluffon and the surrounding country.
Our regiment is talking of going into the veteran service to serve three years longer if they can get three fourths if the regiment to volunteer they will then go home to recruit and fill the regiment up again provided that the general commanding the department can spare them from the field; The 24th Ind regiment has made up its quota and got permission of Gen Banks to go; they will start home in a few days; We have got 369 veteran volunteers in our regiment and I think the regiment would go for if they could get permission to leave the department; for the present I must bring by scribbling to a close as it will soon be dark.
Yours truly J.W Roberts

J.S Dawson Esq.










Wednesday, August 29, 2012

Robert Rutter Roberts (1817-1879)

Robert Rutter Roberts born 17 April 1817 in Warren Jefferson Co. Ohio. He died 9 May 1879 in Radium Stafford Kansas. I found him on the 1850 Federal Census Records. He was a farmer. He was 33 years old and he lived in Wells, Jefferson Co. Ohio. He was married to Margaret Amanda Welday she was born 3 Jan 1822 and died 21 Jan 1902. They filed for marriage license on 29 Jan 1839 and was married 7 Feb 1839 according to LDS. In the 1860 census he was living in Cross Creek Jefferson Co Ohio. In 1870 census record he was living in Stratton Edgar Co. Illinois. he had 3000 value in real estate 500 in personal estate, which was very good during that time period.

In 1878 on election day he landed in Kansas ( according to a family member that was interview by Garmon & Wanda Estes)

Robert and Margaret had 13 children
Jacob Welday Roberts born Dec 1839 in Steubenville Ohio, Died 22 Dec 1864 TN  ( we believe he died during the civil war)
Eliza Jane born 05 May 1844 Steubenville Ohio died 18 Sept 1924 Long Beach Ca.
Clarinda Anne born May 1846 Steubenville Ohio Married 1862 to John Fowler and in 1872 to Charles L. Wells
Mary Samantha born 1848 Steubeville Ohio Died 1865
Margaret Maria born 1850 Steubenville Ohio died 1853
Mazeffa Banjamin born 24 Jul 1853 Steubenville Ohio Died 15 Jan 1924 Larned Kansas Married Ella May Loafman 6 Mar 1884
Coraline Vera born 22 Dec 1856 Steubenville Ohio died 11 Aug 1947 Terre Haute Vigo Ind. Married 26 Mar 1878 Akins and in 1895 to William A. Bishop
Samuel born 1857 Steubenville Ohio
Sadie Bell born 10 jun 1858 Steubenville Ohio died 22 Jun 1937 Vermelian Edgar Ill.
Alice lee 22 Aug 1860 Steubennvillie Ohio Died 7 Jul 1954 St. John Kansas married 30 Nov 1879 to James Henry Smith Barton Great bend Kansas
Alanzo Carlton born 07 Aug 1863 Indiana ( not too sure as to why he was born Indiana, rather than in Ohio) died 1874
Franklin R. born 07 Feb 1865 Steubenville Ohio deid 21 Feb 1865 Steubenville Ohio
Fredrick born 1867 Ill. ( not too sure why he was born in Ill and not in Ohio)

Update Information Feb 2017

Cousin Sally, found a book that had more information of Robert Rutter Roberts life. That Vernie Dawson Lee contribute information of Robert Rutter Roberts to the book.

On page 265-266


Also there is:
1.6.9 Alice L. Married to James Smith
1.6.10 Alanzo Carlton 7 Aug 1863 - 1874
1.6.11 Franklin R. 7 Feb 1865 - in infancy

Robert Rutter Roberts Tombstone

Margaret Amanda Welday 





Margaret Amanda Welday Roberts Tombstone
Source: Families of Ruebsamen, Spear, Dawson, Burly by Neil Ruebsamen

Tuesday, August 28, 2012

Benjamin M Roberts

Benjamin Roberts born 05 Feb 1775 in Maryland. He died  25 Aug 1871 Wells Jefferson Co. Ohio. Who is the father Robert Rutter Roberts who is the father of Mazeffa Benjamin Roberts.
I believe that Benjamin Roberts is one of the earlier settlers of Wells in Jefferson Co. Ohio. He was a farmer. I have found in him on 1810-1820 federal census records Warren Township Jefferson Co Ohio. I also have have him on 1830-1870 federal census record for Wells Jefferson Co. In the 1820s Wells was created separate from Warren. In the 1850 census record showed he was a farmer. The value of his estate was 3000, that was worth a lot. He was 74 years old. The wife name on the census is Holorinda.  There was an error in the transcript of that census ( misspellings happen a lot on census records) Her name is Clarinda Anne Mckain (McCain) She died in 1860. In the 1860 census record showed he lived with James Roberts ( his son) under the name of Mitchell Roberts he was 85 years. We believe that Mitchell maybe his middle name. In the 1870s census records he became blind by then and still living with James. I believe that his farm may have been turned over to James to care for it due to he had a lot of estate value on the
census.

Benjamin and Clarinda had 6 Children
Anna Roberts 1799-1857
James Roberts 1805-1877
Rachel Roberts 1808-1877
Moses Roberts 1810-1840 He married Rebecca Ball on 25 Aug 1831
Hester Ann Roberts 1814-1853
Robert Rutter Roberts 1817-1879
(I highlighted Robert Rutter as he is part of my family line in with the Roberts.)

Update 2/3/17 
This past week Sally Roberts found this gem from a book called: Families of Ruebsamen, Spear, Dawson and Burley by Neil Ruebsamen. My 1st cousin 2X removed Verdie Dawson Lee wrote this summary in the book. Verdie was researching our family back in the 1930s. We have been following her research of our family. We have been able to find records to back up her research to validate her work. She has done a wonderful job. This family line hasn't been easy to research due to the family moving west from Ohio and Maryland. Also Benjamin Roberts is still very difficult to get pass him. We are having a heck of a time trying to find his family through DNA. We have his descendants come as matches, but not his ancestors as we were hoping. We hope in time we can find the rest of his family line.

The House of Benjamin Roberts
The story that has been handed down through the generations is this: A Roberts, whose name is thought to be Benjamin, lived in Scotland near the border of England. He went into England, across the border, to work for a man whose name we think was Rutter; he fell in love with this man's daughter, they were married and came to America. It is not known who accompanied them, but it is likely members from both families came. It has always been said that it was a "Benjamin' Roberts who came, but this may not be true. (Or it might have been his grandfather who came over. These "stories" are so often confused and mixed up.) However, the "Bride and Groom" settled in Maryland, and it was there that my great grandfather, Benjamin Roberts was born, on 15 February 1775, and he married Clarinda McKain on 11 February 1796. I do not know where this marrage took place, (probably S.W. Virginia, or Pan Handle, W. Virginia, as the McKain family were in S.W. Pennsylvania by 1793 or before), but I do know that Benjamin and Clarinda McKain Roberts settled in what was then Warren Township (now, that portion is Wells Township taken from Warren Township in 1823) Jefferson County, Ohio.

Benjamin Roberts' wife Clarinda McKain was born in Maryland, on 27 June 1779. My belief is that this marriage took place in Maryland, although I may be greatly mistaken. The fact that Benjamin Roberts' death record, found in Steubenville, Ohio, states he was born in West Virginia, indicates that he must have lived there at one time, and the person giving the information for the death record, just supposed that he was born there. Therefore, his parents may have moved on into W. Virginia (Virginia) and he may have been married there before going into Jefferson County, Ohio. Another story I have heard repeatedly, is this: My great grandfather, Benjamin Roberts' father, died when Benjamin was yet a small boy. His mother apprenticed him to a German Cooper to learn the trade, but Benjamin disliked this work so much he ran away and went home. He was very musical and learned to play the violin; he played for dances and different entertainments and one day became converted and from then on led a strictly upright Christian life, and finally became a preacher, preaching at Hopewell Chapel in Warren Township, Jefferson County, Ohio, and in M.E. Church, Smithfield, Ohio.

As I research this gem, I wasn't able to find anything of a Benjamin Roberts coming to America on a ship yet. I did see some marriages in England between Roberts and Rutters, but none mentioning a Benjamin Roberts and a Rutter. The only marriage I saw of a Roberts and Rutter was in Maryland between a William Rutter and a Ann Rickets Roberts in 5 Jun 1766 in St. Stephens Parish Cecil County Maryland.
I need to put in consideration of Verdie statement " These "stories" are so often confused and mixed up. Family stores due to get mixed up and bits and pieces are left out etc. As with this story of Benjamin parents coming over to America, I will place on the back burner until I can find more evidence to support this family tale.
With census records and his tombstone we can back up the age of Benjamin Roberts. We can also back up when and where Benjamin was married by the record of "The Maryland Historical & Genealogical Bulletin Vol 12 No. 8 July 1941. Apparently Verdie had the Roberts Bible where it states when they were born and location.
Now as far as Benjamin father dying when we was a young boy, we haven't found anything of that yet. But we did find a record of Benjamin being at a Methodist Episcopal class in Smithfield Village from a book: Ohio History Vol 8 pg 151

and this snip from another book called: History of Belmont and Jefferson Co. on page 555







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Benjamin Roberts Tombstone